In September, I released Blood & Betrayal, the fifth novel in my Emperor’s Edge series. I sold about 2700 copies of it during the month (not including those who purchased through my eARC offering in August) and about 6,000 ebooks across all of my titles and all stores (over 5,000 came from Amazon U.S.). September has been my best sales month to date, with May (the first full month after the release of EE4) being the second best. It’s taken me into the realm of 50,000+ ebook sales total.
There are a lot of other independent authors who’ve hit that mark (with many selling more than 200,000 already), some with fewer total books out, but I feel like this is an encouraging start to my writing career. I published my first ebook less than two years ago, in December of 2010. I sold about 30 ebooks that month (most to people I knew). Fortunately, it got better from there.
Thanks to the high ebook royalty rates Amazon offers (70% for books between $2.99 and $9.99 and 35% for others), I’ve been doing this for my full-time job since December of 2011. I average about 2,500 to 3,000 sales most months with new release months obviously doing much better.
As I mentioned in an interview with Joanna Penn over at the Creative Penn, I haven’t experienced any major “lucky breaks” or spent any time at the tippy tops of the bestseller charts (lately, my debuts have been hanging out in the Top 20 of the Epic Fantasy category for a couple of weeks over at Amazon, but that’s about as close as I can get to claiming to be a “bestseller”). I’ve just been plugging away and doing my best to write every day, so I can put out at least two new novels (and some shorter works) a year.
I’ll share a few of the things I’ve learned in a moment, but for those who are curious about such things, here’s a breakdown of September sales from Amazon (US), which, as I mentioned, accounts for the majority of my income:
- The Emperor’s Edge (a novel — free — I don’t count free downloads as “sales”): 9658
- EE2-EE5 (novels — sold at $4.95) — 3,934
- Encrypted (novel — sold at $3.95) — 329
- Flash Gold (novella — free) — 807
- Flash Gold 2 (novella — sold at $1.79) — 209
- Flash Gold 3 (novella — sold at $2.99) — 184
- Shadows over Innocence & The Assassin’s Curse (short stories — sold at $0.99) — 545
- EE1-3 omnibus (I un-published this at Amazon early in the month — sold at $7.99) — 40
- Goblin Brothers Adventures (middle grade short story collection — $0.99) — 36
Amazon US total (not including free downloads): 5,277
I also sold close to a thousand copies at Barnes & Noble this month and a couple of hundred at Smashwords, iTunes, and Amazon UK, with just shy of 100 at Kobo.
The numbers show that novels do best for me, which isn’t that surprising, with each one in my EE series outperforming the stand-alone, Encrypted. I don’t have a freebie associated with Encrypted (for now), or perhaps it might do better.
Overall, I certainly can’t complain. As I said, this is my best month to date, and I’m grateful that so many readers have been open to trying an independent author.
Random Thoughts and Advice for Other Up-and-Coming Authors
- If you’re serious about having a writing career (i.e. you hope to make a living from your word crafting), I believe self-publishing is the best way to get started right now. It’s a lot of work, and is best suited for those who are fairly prolific and don’t mind learning how to market online, but I think you need to be both of those things to make it with a traditional publisher these days anyway. Also, just because you get started self-publishing doesn’t mean you have to stay with it. A lot of authors are choosing a hybrid model these days. Once you prove you can sell and that you have a fan-base built up, it doesn’t seem to be that hard to get a deal. I got my offer fairly early on but wasn’t ready to make the switch at that time.
- A series can be a powerful tool. Though I haven’t sold as many books as some of my peers, I’ve definitely seen the cumulative effects of working on a series. With ebooks, your first book is always out there, on the “shelves,” so people can continue to find it and, if they enjoy it, go on to buy the rest of the books. With stand-alone novels, purchasing follow-ups is less of a no-brainer for readers, and it’ll probably depend on whether the blurb piques their interest. That said, a downside of a series is that people like to start with Book 1 and if your Book 1 isn’t that strong, and it’s not until further into the series that your writing improves, that can mean fewer readers give you a second try. You also get tired of promoting Book 1 all of the time!
- In the ebook world, adult fiction sells far better than children’s fiction. Not much of a surprise there (how many kids have e-readers and credit cards to buy on Amazon?), but I actually published my Goblin Brothers’ stories first and was of a mind to create a series of novels with those characters. I have the rough draft of the first one on my computer. I’ve left it in draft stage, though, because I know I’ll earn more by working on my adult fantasy novels. For the middle grade (and younger) market, it may still be worth trying to find an agent and traditionally publishing. Every now and then I kick around the idea of trying that route for the series, but I have a bunch of projects on my plate (EE6, a sequel to Encrypted, and more Flash Gold novellas in the immediate future) at the moment.
- The more books you have out the better you do. This is another one that seems obvious, but I see a lot of authors promoting the heck out of the one book they have out. Honestly, I did the same thing (though I published two novels to start with — EE1 and Encrypted). It’s what you’re supposed to do, right? The truth is, though, that it’s not really worth the time to spend a lot of hours on promotion when the most you can possibly earn is $2.05 or thereabouts (if you sell your first novel for $2.99) per customer. Now, if you have six books out in a series, and could earn closer to $20 per customer (assuming quite a few folks go on to buy all of the books), it starts to make more sense to spend a half an hour or an hour to “get a sale.” As we discussed last Spring, most of the independent authors I’ve come across who are making a living from their work have multiple books out, sometimes multiple books in multiple series. Not many people make a living wage on one book.
- Being approachable and doing a little extra for your readers goes a long way. I’ve had quite a few readers tell me that they appreciate that I write up character interviews, post cut scenes, chat with people on Twitter and Facebook, and pop into the EE forum. They always sound… surprised, whereas I think, what author wouldn’t do these things? I can understand getting to a point where it’s hard to answer all of one’s emails, especially if you blog about self-publishing and get a lot related to that as well (I’m trying batch processing to improve my efficiency in the email area), but I can’t tell you how many people have said things like, “I’m really enjoying your books and have recommended them to X and Y friends.” I’d like to think I’m clever at online marketing, but I know I’ve been fortunate to get a lot of readers through word-of-mouth. It’s true that people will talk up a book they like regardless of whether they’ve ever interacted with the author, but I think folks are even more likely to want to see you succeed if they’ve come to know and like you through online interactions.
- Your social media pages are for building a community, not for turning strangers into book buyers. Every day I see people promoting their books on Twitter and Facebook. I think you can stir up some interest on Twitter (though you’ll get a lot more mileage out of promoting a free ebook rather than a non-free one), but really these sites are about connecting with readers and creating a community. Or as Seth Godin calls it, a building a tribe. Nobody’s going to go to your Facebook page and then decide to buy your book. They’re not going to know you or your Facebook page exist until they’ve read your work, liked it, and been inspired to look you up (hint: put your social media links at the end of your books and encourage people to stop by). Facebook is a place to update existing fans, keep them interested in your world between books, and encourage interaction. By connecting people with common interests (your books), you have the opportunity to create something that’s larger than yourself. I believe the EE forum I mentioned originally grew out of a conversation people were having in the comments on my Facebook page. I do my best to plug it when I get a chance now, to encourage growth, as one of my characters would say.
- Giving away freebies doesn’t devalue your work; it gives people a chance to try your stories at no risk. I can’t tell you how many people have written and said they first tried my books because EE1 was free, then went on to buy the rest of the books in the series. The result is that I sell more — and earn more — overall because I offer a couple of ebooks for free. I’ve heard authors argue that people who download free ebooks don’t read them or never buy others, but this simply isn’t true. Haven’t you ever found a new author by first checking out his/her work from the library? Or by borrowing a book from a friend? I know I have. Beyond getting people to try your work, I believe that offering free ebooks counts toward the “doing a little extra” for folks that I mentioned above. It starts your potential relationship with a new reader off on a good foot.
- If you build a community of “ravenous fans,” you’ll never go hungry. Every other week some author is blogging about falling ebook prices (the “race to the bottom”), the sketchy marketing tactics others are employing (paid reviews being the most recent cause for hubbub), or perhaps just the ever-increasing amount of competition in the marketplace that’s making it harder and harder to stand out. Books aren’t a commodity, though, and what other authors are doing matters less than you think. If you can develop your writing to a point such that others truly derive enjoyment from it in a “I have to tell friends about this” way, your career is well on its way to being established. Step 2 is to make sure you have the contact information (AKA through a newsletter subscription) for those passionate readers so that you’re not relying on the whims of Amazon for your income. We’ve interviewed authors who have made close to $100,000 on a single Kickstarter campaign. If you have enough fans and a way to contact them, you’ll always be able to make a living telling stories, one way or another.
Thoughts? Please post them below!
Hey Lindsay,
thanx for that honest report. Looks like Amazon is still the giant in the room here.
It’s also interesting that you make more sales the more (and better) books you write, and that social media isn’t used to make more book sales but to connect with your tribe.
I see so many indie authors tweet the crap out of their work, up to the point where you see the same, auto-mated tweets every, and I mean EVERY single day.
I doubt it highly converts, especially not the people who tend to follow them and get annoyed by the same messages.
Question : Should a newbie start out with a novella, a novel or a series all together ?
Hey Mars, thanks for reading and commenting!
Yea, I’m not big on the automated posts and such. I think that the authors who are always tweeting their book links, if they sell well (often not the case), sell despite their hourly link-posting rather than because of it.
For starting out, novels seem to do best overall, but the Wool omnibus was certainly a good example of a series of novellas that broke out and hit rockstar status. I’m definitely a fan of doing a series, though it can be useful to start with a couple of different Book 1s (or potential Book 1s) to see which one takes off. I’ve also seen people waste their time doing a whole series because nobody dug the first one so nobody went on to buy the others.
Good luck!
Congratulations and thanks for the always valuable advice.
50,000 is a wonderful milestone to reach. I do think it means a little more when you’re selling most of your books at 5 dollars instead of 99 cents as some of the indies on that list have done. Not that it’s easy to sell that many under any circumstances but there you are.
I know I say this over and over, but your story is such an encouragement to me. Thank you for being so open with what you have done!
Do you think that offering EE1 for free brought you sales on Encrypted? I didn’t realize you had released them at the same time.
And I started buying your work in May – about the time EE4 was released, I think.
Again, thanks for sharing!
Glad to inspire, Lysana. 🙂 Thanks for following along with the books and the blog!
I was almost a year into my e-publishing adventure before I made EE1 free (it and Encrypted both started at $2.99 so I could get the 70% royalty). I waited until I had the third book out in the series before dropping the price of the first to zero (though I did have my Ice Cracker II short story out for free, and I think that was a big help with convincing people to drop the $3 for the novel! — I included an excerpt of EE1 at the end of that story).
Hi Lindsay,
First off – Congrats on those amazing sales figures! You’ve worked hard over the past two years to reap these rewards! Thanks also for the good advice on being an indie author and on promoting. I’m one of those indies who spends too much time promoting and not enough time writing, but that’s going to change. My fourth novel is due to be released in December and I am hoping to be almost finished with my fifth (and ready for the editor) by January. It is very true, the more books you have available, the better you do with sales. Thanks for continuing to share our journey with your blog readers.
Thank you, Deanna! Yes, I think writing and publishing more work is the most important thing. When I’m working on something new, I’ll make myself get my X,XXX words in for the day before wandering off to dink around, er, promote my books on social media sites.
Good luck with the new book!
Of all the pages in the crowded self-publishing universe, none have proven so enlightening and uplifting as Lindsay’s. It’s always straightforward and simple to grasp. Her unselfishness is laudable – 50K sales is a pretty significant number. A lot of authors would have abandoned the rest of us by now. Thanks for another great piece. It’s being printed and tacked to my wall as we speak. In another six-months or so, my writing room may be completely wallpapered Buroker style.
Thanks, Mark! I’ve always wanted to be wallpaper material. Well, maybe I was thinking more of being posted on someone’s fridge, but wallpaper is a nice honor too. 😉
Whoo! Go Lindsay!
Honestly, nothing turns me off faster than a hard sell, especially when I’m not actually looking to buy anything. I don’t know why people think that acting like a used-car salesman is the way to go. A free book lets the person judge for themselves and buy without pressure. (In fact, a couple of September’s sales came from me, because I had a loooong plane trip and realized your books would be perfect. Which they were. So thanks!)
Thanks, Mary! How are the writing and sales doing? Did you guys end up getting a table at that con?
I canceled the table because I felt like the group wasn’t ready for that sort of thing. But now, having marketed at some cons myself, I’m actually pretty skeptical of the idea–it doesn’t seem to result in a lot of follow-through. I think a lot of people who go to those things do it because it’s an opportunity to show off costumes and the like–they’re not necessarily big readers of sci-fi. OTOH, you do meet a lot of writers, so it’s nice from a networking perspective–not so much from a sales perspective, though.
Life has been too crazy for me to write this fall–things have finally slowed down, so of course I got sick! But I should be back in the saddle soon. People are buying and asking for the next book, which is always a major motivator…..
Ah, hope you find some writing time soon! Yes, it helps when people are asking for the next one. And threatening to chain you in the dungeon. 😉
I’ve often wondered if the folks who sell their paperbacks at those tables break even. Author copies don’t cost much, but you still have to convince folks to buy a few. 😛
Wow, your openness is admirable. I’m a book marketing consultant – and your points are all things I am trying to talk my authors into doing, to much reluctance at times. I understand their point of view, because it is hard to put oneself out there and build relationships using social media, and sometimes harder to give your work away for free. I appreciate how you describe everything in such clarity, with numbers to boot. I will have to refer my clients back to your blog 😉
Thanks, Mike! Yes, a lot of authors hope that all they’ll have to do is write the book and that their job is done at that point. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to work like that for many people any more, even those who traditionally publish.
Thanks so much for giving us an update with numbers that help tell what the reality is that we can aspire to – even if the reality is that MG is a hard sell. I hadn’t realized that you started out in MG and shifted over to YA/adult.
And I think your philosophy on free books is sound – I found you that way or by a $.99 book, in fact. Free books are like the library or ARCs, if you treat them that way, so in other words, not anything traditionally published authors don’t also do.
Thanks for posting, Erin. To be fair, my only MG ebook is a collection of short stories, and such things don’t sell as well as novels or even shorter stand-alone works. But, yes, it has been much easier selling the grown-up stuff.
Congratulations! You’re the only indie author on my automatic buy list, and I’d like for you to keep doing this for as long as possible. 😀
Wow, Lindsay! Congratulations! I’ve read all you’ve published, and I’m sure that in time many, many more readers will discover your wonderful stories!
September was my best month to date, too. I sold twenty-four copies in Amazon, and I think one in Barnes and Noble. I also got my first royalty payment from Amazon. 😀
It’s not much but it’s proof that I can do even better — and your success is proof that I can make it, too. I’ve been self-publishing for a year and am excited to finally see some momentum!
Now it’s time to actually publish a novel. 😉
Slowly but surely and stuff. 🙂 I hope your sales continue to grow over the next year!
Congratulations! It’s nice to see what is possible with hard work and good writing. Thank you for sharing all the advice!
Thanks for sharing, Lindsay. Most writers are not willing to divulge this many details about their sales.
Wow. Great milestone! Here’s to the next 50,000 in one third of the time.
Congrats, Lindsay! You certainly deserve every ounce of your success….;)
That’s fantastic, Lindsay. What a great adventure you’ve had. Thanks for sharing your numbers & your advice.
As one (ok multple, considering I just burned through all of EE in a week) of those sales figures, congratulations.
You made me break my audiobook-only rule (after I got to the end of Dark currents and realised that the next audiobook was likely far in the future).
Thanks for grabbing the ebooks, Annamal! EE3 is coming soon to podiobooks, but, yes, it hasn’t been the speediest process I’m afraid.
That’s a shame, but thanks for organising the first two, they really brightened my day!
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This is inspiring! I know how hard you’ve worked for those sales, and it’s lovely to see that work pay off.
When I started on Twitter, I didn’t really know how to use it. I quickly learned that putting links to my books felt….yucky. I just wanted to hang out and make friends. I’m glad I found some like-minded people to hang out with.
I think it’s useful to promote your work on Twitter once in a while (especially if you have a sample or free ebook and aren’t asking people to shell out money immediately), but definitely appreciate the people who keep promo to 1/20 tweets or some such.
Also, some people miss out by not putting links in their bios and asking people to visit. I have a link to my blog and also tell people to check out my free ebook and link to the Amazon page.
I knew I had a question for you after all (came to me late last night).
You said that a successful self-publishing career can bring agents and editors to your door. But do you think that low sales as a self-publisher would hurt your chances if you then tried to seek a traditional publishing deal?
Good question, Rabia.
I’m just guessing, of course, but I think you’d have a hard time selling the books you’d already published (that hadn’t sold well), but I don’t think they’d necessarily hold it against you if you were showing them something new.
At the very least, it looks good to outsiders if you have a blog, Facebook page, Twitter account, etc. already (that get comments, likes, activity, etc.) as they always seem to want to see authors who have already started “building a platform.”
Congratulations! 😀 That’s a great milestone.
And thanks for the helpful post, I really appreciate your willingness to share.
Congratulations!
I mostly lurk but I just wanted to say a quick “Thanks!” for all that you do. As an aspiring to someday become a wannabe writer your posts are inspiring as well as informative and as a reader I enjoy all your stories. I also think I am one of your few fans that likes Flash Gold (slightly) more than EE.
Thanks, Preston! I do intend to get back to the Flash Gold stories next spring. 🙂
Congratulations!
50k is definitely a milestone!
And by the way, thanks for sharing! Following your progress continues to be an inspiration!
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Great post Lindsay.
Congratulations on passing the 50,000 mark. That’s fantastic 🙂
My dream is to write full-time the same as you are. I have two novels and a short story collection out but am working on three more books at the moment.
I agree that having multiple books out there is key to building yourself up.
Congrats to you and thanks for this. I just published my first novel length story in August. This reassures me that my sales weren’t as bad as I imagined. It is part of a series…so hopefully it will build.
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Hi Lindsay,
I’m not a big fan of the latest marketing gimmicks that keep popping up, or attempts to ‘game’ Amazon. Those are short term and short sighted tactics. That’s why I love the advice you give. It’s about building a readership for the long run.
You also brought up a good point about the quality of the first in a series. If it’s book one and it’s free, it has to be really good. Keep up the great work!
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I finally got my hands on EE2 to EE5 which is like, more or less equivalent to PhP1000 here, where I’m from, for the ebooks(gotta love Smashwords). Completely worth it. Seriously. Love.
Sorry, my brain, it’s still trying to recover from teh awesome that is your writing. I cannot wait for Sicarius’ POV! Gyaaaah!
Still, I am just at loss for words to portray exactly how in awe I am that despite me being unable to wait for the sixth installment, I feel strangely happy and sated after “Blood and Betrayal”. There was no unnecessary angst or drama to keep me awake at night (only, I am awake, unable to sleep because of the buzz of excitement for the next book, just not tearing my hair out like I am prone to do when falling off massive cliff-hangers [see reaction to EE4’s ending]).
I attribute this to the fact that your characters actually talk about issues (granted Amaranthe does most of the talking/convincing/persuading). I cannot even explain how relieved and happy I was for the Epilogue in EE5. Cannot. Even.
Of course the satisfaction from EE5 didn’t lessen my anticipation for the next book but I just want to share my appreciation for not leaving fans completely hanging. I’ve learned that in a series, the occasional cliff-hanger being a good thing for it to keep running, having one at every effing end of a book when the next one is still planned to come out in a year or so can put off many readers. Seriously. Thank you.
Book two was beautiful, and although I’d read a review with the minor spoiler before reading the actual series about the romance starting late and the holding hands scene, actually reading it still made me squee. So far, I haven’t read a better male-lead than Sicarius and I think it’s going to be hard to find a hero to top him (in the areas of badassery or romance).
I’ve read books with ‘heroes’ set in a similar mold to your Sicarius but they never could manage to get me to be as understanding for his past or believing for his character growth.
Sicarius’ scenes with Amaranthe are perfect, heartwarming yet never going over the top. No cheesy lines. Nadda. Writing talk-about-our-feelings/issues scenes are tricky but you manage it with such grace, it’s just so unbelievably believably honest, you make the reader *feel*.
Then I moved to the third book and I thought it couldn’t possibly get better, then you blew stuff up, and blew me away most especially. The fourth book had me almost, *almost*, tearing my hair out but good thing book five was already out and ordered for.
It’s rare to get me all choked up in a good way but in every book of this series, there was something that always moved me to sobbing then smiling through tears.
Thank you.
Thank you so much for reading and for the kind words, Danne. I’m glad you’re enjoying the stories!
Hah, yes, because I’m taking a break to write the sequel to Encrypted next, I didn’t want to leave EE5 with too much of a cliffhanger (though I was a little tempted–I almost didn’t write that epilogue!). I hope to have EE6 out to you before too long. 🙂
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Thanks for sharing Lindsay – I’m hoping to reach this milestone myself soon 🙂
I really appreciate you sharing honestly and I love the fact your lessons and tips are nothing outrageous, just hard work over time. This is the key and what I learn from you and others – it takes years to build a tribe of any kind, but the journey is worth it too – congrats again!
Joanna
Thanks for stopping by and for plugging the post on Twitter, Joanna! Hah, you seem to be doing just fine over there! I’m listening to the podcast and waiting to see if the agent finds your books a good home. 🙂
I wish I could become a free lance writer who doesn’t have a day job like you did. But, I haven’t sold any of my first book yet. (One that was a gift from me for a review. I have some friends who want to buy it also.) I also have a second book idea but it might take me a long time to write it. The idea is more personal than my last book. Thanks for the numbers and suggestions. I am trying to build a friendly community on my facebook fanpage for my book. But, no one has read it yet. (It has only been out for about a month on Amazon KDP and Createspace.)
It definitely takes time to get the ball rolling, Tracy, and usually multiple titles out as well. You might try giving away something for free (even if it’s just a short story) to encourage new folks to give your work a try. Some people spring for advertising on Pixel of Ink and Ereader News Today too.
Your post is very encouraging to a guy like me about to self-publish his first novel (1st in a series of 3). The 2nd is done and almost finished the editing process, and the 3rd one is outlined and could be out in less than a year. Your marketing philosophy makes sense and it sure seems to be working for you. The key here seems to be patient enough to let the process unfold and take hold. The important lesson I see is to be in it for the long haul and make decisions based on that rather than “flash-in-the-pan” tactics. Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise.
That’s about how it’s gone, James. 🙂 Thanks for reading, and good luck with your own publishing endeavors!
Thanks for all of the wonderful information. I was just wondering, if you have any recommendations for services such as graphic design, cover design, etc. Or if there is a resource where many of the top providers of these services are listed?
I use streetlightgraphics.com for cover design (they do print and ebook formatting as well), though I understand there’s quite a waiting list these days. I found my first designer just by posting a gig in the jobs forum at DeviantArt.com http://forum.deviantart.com/jobs/offers/
You can also check the “yellow pages” over at the Kindleboards and ask around there for recommendations. Lots of artists, editors, and more are listed there: http://www.kindleboards.com/index.php/topic,123703.0.html
Good luck!
Thank you so much for sharing your success story! And for sharing it in an uplifting and delightful manner. I think the point I agree with most is connecting with your readers and making yourself approachable. I remember the first author (Laurin Wittig) that I ever felt compelled to send a ‘thank you for writing such a beautiful book’ email to. And when she responded? I felt so very honored and amazed! I think that if I felt that way, then some of my readers are probably going to think the same thing.
I too am one of those ‘indie author’ success stories. I published my first book last December. This Friday is actually my last day at my ‘day job’. Come Monday morning, writing will be my full time job! (Very exciting that is!)
Again, thank you for sharing! I wish you all the best and many years of success!
Suzan Tisdale
Thanks for reading and commenting, Suzan, and congratulations on your success! I hope you enjoy your new day job. 🙂
Hey Lindsay,
This just might push me towards e-publishing my first novel. Very interesting argument you presented, and it’s got me thinking.
Also, I will surely be turning my first novel into a series. Thanks for the extra work! 😉
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Thank you for this post, Lindsay! I have been thinking about writing an Ebook series for some time now, but I just haven’t gotten around to it yet. Hopefully it will be my summer project in 2014.
Thanks for the advice on the Ebook writing process. It will be helpful come summertime! :]
I just want to say that you write your posts beautifully (both informative and concise – an online rarity indeed!) and I’m looking forward to reading one of your books just as soon as I get a moment!
Thanks to you I feel happier about launching my own blog and self-publishing my first ebooks. You’re advice has been great, thank you!!!
Hello Lindsay,
This is the first time I am visiting your blog, and I am quite impressed
I am a new author working on a book at the moment.
99% of the stuff I have read about publishing are negative.
Thanks for sharing your positive result with us.
This is a real encouragement to me.
Congrats for your all successes.
Chi.
Hey…thanks for sharing your thoughts about self publishing…I was thinking about my self publishing…and it really great to catch wisdom from you. I got inspired by your story.